What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Edgy MD » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:21 am

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We'll record that as an Eric Campbell vote.

More seriously, if what's really wanted is a righthander to help Smith against lefties and to have positional flexibility when a need opens elsewhere, the team has that in Flores (or will if and when another infielder is brought in) and in Wright (or will if he recovers enough to play). This is more of a Tony Clarkian hedge against whether Smith is ready at all.

The Mets could conceivably sign him and shed him during the spring, I imagine.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Nymr83 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:36 am

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yeah which is why the signing wouldn't bother me, at minimum salary he is easily disposable. my only concern is the extent to which signing him causes the Mets to throw up their 'mission accomplished' banner for infield help rather than considering him essentially a fully guaranteed salary spring-training invitee
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Ceetar » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:38 am

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no one's throwing up a mission accomplished banner for Adrian Gonzalez, if they sign him it'd be to compete for the 2nd backup infielder bench spot.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby smg58 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:59 am

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Gonzalez has enough of a track record to warrant a major league deal, which means he will probably go to the team that gives him the clearest path to playing time. I'm not sure that's us -- I would think that an AL team that did not have a set DH would be a more viable option from his perspective -- but I see no reason not to call his agent and chat.

Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:16 am

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yeah of course you talk to him. He'd at worst be a "James Loney" type who could fill in, and it's porobably a matter of which team's first baseman gets injured first otherwise.

No clue as to the remarks above about his looks. Geez.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Lefty Specialist » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:27 am

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Well, no harm in kicking the tires, but I have to believe he goes to an AL team.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Benjamin Grimm » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:36 am

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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:No clue as to the remarks above about his looks. Geez.


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I don't necessarily recognize "handsome" when I see it, but I do know what "ugly" looks like, and I don't think this qualifies.

Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Centerfield » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:51 am

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Lefty Specialist wrote:Well, no harm in kicking the tires, but I have to believe he goes to an AL team.


Or you know, a contender.

Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Edgy MD » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:56 am

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Benjamin Grimm wrote:I don't necessarily recognize "handsome" when I see it, ...


I can sure tell you that it rhymes with "Anthony Recker."

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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

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So I've heard!

Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Edgy MD » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:45 am

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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby A Boy Named Seo » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:52 am

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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Frayed Knot » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:13 pm

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A lot of this depends on the details of whatever happened to him between 2016 when he played 156 games/633 PA of 784 OPS for a championship competitive team in the non-DH league,
and 2017 when those numbers became 71 G / 252 PA / 642 OPS and he supposedly became this "can't hit, can't move" piece of trash.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Nymr83 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:18 pm

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Keith gets a little full of himself sometimes.

1. it is never irresponsible to reach out. maybe you suffer an injury (or three) and the guy becomes your best option down the line.

2. maybe the Mets feel that his recent results were injury-related and can improve. Does Medical Doctor Keith Law know for sure this isn't the case?

3. I'm glad Keith thinks Smith is ready. If Smith is really ready, Gonzalez won't sniff the field. nobody is saying to guarantee him any playing time or even a roster spot past the end of spring training.

4. How does Doctor of Psychology Keith Law know that he isn't an "asset" in the clubhouse. maybe he would fit right in with the Mets guys.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby A Boy Named Seo » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:39 pm

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Nymr83 wrote:Keith gets a little full of himself sometimes.

1. it is never irresponsible to reach out. maybe you suffer an injury (or three) and the guy becomes your best option down the line.

2. maybe the Mets feel that his recent results were injury-related and can improve. Does Medical Doctor Keith Law know for sure this isn't the case?

3. I'm glad Keith thinks Smith is ready. If Smith is really ready, Gonzalez won't sniff the field. nobody is saying to guarantee him any playing time or even a roster spot past the end of spring training.

4. How does Doctor of Psychology Keith Law know that he isn't an "asset" in the clubhouse. maybe he would fit right in with the Mets guys.


1. Yepp, agreed.

2. For sure. But he had a bad back that made him terribly immobile last year. Hope he's better, but most soon-to-be 36 year-old ballplayers don't tend to.

3. Yepp, agreed.

4. I'd bet this refers to him going to vacation in Europe while the Dodgers were playing the WS. Probably rankled some.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Edgy MD » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:52 pm

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When Keith Law sees a safe bet (and the notion that Adrian Gonzalez isn't going to set the world on fire is a pretty safe bet) he triples down. See his excoriating review of Tim Tebow.

I suspect that, for prospect watchers, writing about unknown futures is so filled with grey areas, and so exposes them to accusations of "you were WRONG about Jacob deGrom! And Justin Wilson suxx!" that when they see something like solid ground, they are tempted to plant their flags in it deep.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Frayed Knot » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:23 pm

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We're presently up to:
Mets are in "serious discussions" to sign Adrian Gonzalez -- Bob Nightengale
and
"there's a good chance this may happen" -- Jon Heyman


https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/01/ ... zalez.html
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:37 pm

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We need a LH bench bat anyway, may as well be this guy though I had a tiny candle for Grandyman.

"Pending a physical" is the word now.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Centerfield » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:41 pm

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Sounds like a no lose type of move.

What exactly were his injuries last year anyway? Chronic things or something expected to heal?

Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Centerfield » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:07 pm

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Just read up. Back issues. Herniated disk. That usually doesn’t get better on old guys. Yikes. Anyway, low risk move.

I doubt they will trade Dom smith because of this.

Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby smg58 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:37 am

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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Edgy MD » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:15 am

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The Mets already have spine doctors on retainer because of Wright. It's an efficiency move!
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby RealityChuck » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:28 am

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Low risk move, but you have wonder the message this is sending to Don Smith, as they just signed two people to play his position.
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Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby Centerfield » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:10 am

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Edgy MD wrote:The Mets already have spine doctors on retainer because of Wright. It's an efficiency move!


So here, physical is more than just a formality right? Do you bring in the spine guys now?

Anyway if he’s healthy and bounces back he could be our #3 hitter.

Re: What is to become of Adrian Gonzalez?

Postby 41Forever » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:45 am

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I think this is a low-risk, high-reward situation. Certainly worth exploring.

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